The podcast for real operators

Business Under Fire

This isn't motivation. This isn't theory. And it damn sure isn't Google.

Business Under Fire is raw conversation with people who've actually built something: signed guarantees, made payroll under pressure, and stayed standing when it almost broke.

What this is

Real business. Real pressure. Real consequences.

Business Under Fire is where owners stop bullshitting. No highlight reels. No gurus. No recycled advice. Just the conversations that happen when operators talk honestly about what broke, what almost ended it, and what finally worked.

Who this is for

Wherever you are in it, there’s a seat at the table.

01

Thinking about starting

Listen first. Reality hits different when money, people, and reputation are on the line.

02

Already in it

You'll recognize the pressure, the doubt, and the weight that never turns off.

03

Been punched by reality

Welcome. You're not broken. You're just building something real.

Latest episodes

Straight from the CEO’s mouth.

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S2 · E16 · Sep 17, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min

90% Of Success Is Showing Up

In this episode of Business Under Fire, host Tommy sits down with Hobart Doyon, owner of HD Pools & Landscaping, to talk about his journey from earning a Master's Degree in Accounting to building a successful landscaping and pool…

Show notes

In this episode of Business Under Fire, host Tommy sits down with Hobart Doyon, owner of HD Pools & Landscaping, to talk about his journey from earning a Master's Degree in Accounting to building a successful landscaping and pool construction business.

Hobart shares how a side hustle mowing lawns grew into a full-time career, why he left the corporate world behind, lessons learned from scaling a service business, the realities of the pool industry, hiring and retaining employees, networking, sales, and what it really takes to succeed as an entrepreneur.

Whether you're a business owner, contractor, tradesperson, or someone thinking about taking the leap into self-employment, this episode is packed with practical insights and real-world experience.

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction to Hobart Doyon & HD Pools & Landscaping

01:10 - Leaving accounting to work for himself

S2 · E15 · Aug 27, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min

Math Nerd to Face Surgeon - Dr. Mark Haverkorn

In this episode of Business Under Fire , we sit down with Dr. Mark Haverkorn — a rare dual-credentialed DDS and MD — who runs River City Oral Surgery in San Antonio, TX. Dr. Haverkorn breaks down what oral and maxillofacial surgery…

Show notes

In this episode of Business Under Fire , we sit down with Dr. Mark Haverkorn — a rare dual-credentialed DDS and MD — who runs River City Oral Surgery in San Antonio, TX. Dr. Haverkorn breaks down what oral and maxillofacial surgery actually covers (spoiler: way more than pulling teeth), shares his path from a self-described math-team nerd to a surgeon who reconstructs faces, and gets real about the business side of running an independent medical practice — including the wild "cupcake marketing" story that helped generate $1 million in referrals, and why his practice refuses to take insurance and posts every price on its website.

Whether you're in healthcare, running your own business, or just love a good entrepreneurial story with some surgery talk mixed in, this one's got it all.

S2 · E14 · Aug 19, 2026 · 1 hr 57 min

What The Best Coaches Understand

In this episode of Business Under Fire, Tommy Bonner sits down with leadership coach, speaker, professor, and talent development expert Dr. Colby Jubenville for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, confidence, coaching, culture,…

Show notes

In this episode of Business Under Fire, Tommy Bonner sits down with leadership coach, speaker, professor, and talent development expert Dr. Colby Jubenville for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, confidence, coaching, culture, personal growth, and what it really takes to build successful organizations and successful lives.

Dr. Jubenville shares lessons from decades of coaching, consulting, higher education, athletics, and leadership development. Together, Tommy and Colby explore why so many people feel stuck, how great leaders build trust, why culture matters more than most organizations realize, and how anyone can create momentum by taking ownership of their personal development.

Whether you're a business owner, manager, entrepreneur, coach, or someone simply looking to become the best version of yourself, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and powerful stories.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction & Colby's Journey to Tennessee

03:35 The Power of Coaching and Mentorship

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If you've built something real, we want the truth.

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We're looking for owners with real stories: wins, losses, scars and lessons. Not perfect journeys. Not overnight success.

Tell your story

If your experience can help someone else survive the fire, reach out and let's talk.

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Work with Tommy

Buy. Fix. Scale.

  • Selling your business? Have you had a successful business for 10+ years? We'd love to talk to you about buying it.
  • Need a set of fresh eyes? Let Tommy come in and look at your operation to get the kinks out. We've raised revenue in several businesses, often turning them around in as little as one week.
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